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Re: ovalprocess

: I have been searching the net for the program. ovalprocess.
: Can anybody help me ?

I think it's not a program. It's a hardware installation
check the wire magazine (May issue). There is a related article

Realistic drums

Well, here is the thing... me and my band want to record a demo, but we don't have money to pay for a recording studio, so we're making everything on the pc. We have recorded vocals, guitars, and keyboards. Now, we want drums in the songs, but we can't record them (lack of microphones and equipement) and the MIDI drum kit really sucks!
My question is, where can I get a cool-realistic-sounding virtual drum kit, if any? Is there sofware, plug ins or other stuff that can give me a great and powerful drum sound?

Re: Realistic drums

back in the 70's there were some albums out called "drum drops". 12 to 14 different tracs consisting of an 8 bar intro then 16 bar verse chorus and so on. it was simply a stuctured drum track recorded by a great studio drummer and you wrote your songs arond the drum track. they had different rock jazz funk, everything you could think of.does anyone know of any cds out like this. i cant find anything like it . they were great

Re: Realistic drums

: back in the 70's there were some albums out called "drum drops". 12 to 14 different tracs consisting of an 8 bar intro then 16 bar verse chorus and so on. it was simply a stuctured drum track recorded by a great studio drummer and you wrote your songs arond the drum track. they had different rock jazz funk, everything you could think of.does anyone know of any cds out like this. i cant find anything like it . they were great

> I know, I wrote many songs back then (it was actually the 80's, the reason I remember is the "Cars'" first album came out during that time...) The mans name was Joey DiViera and the albums were called "Drum Drops".

James

Re: Realistic drums

: back in the 70's there were some albums out called "drum drops". 12 to 14 different tracs consisting of an 8 bar intro then 16 bar verse chorus and so on. it was simply a stuctured drum track recorded by a great studio drummer and you wrote your songs arond the drum track. they had different rock jazz funk, everything you could think of.does anyone know of any cds out like this. i cant find anything like it . they were great

Re: Realistic drums

I've got volume 1 & volume 5 on CD. Some guy in the midwest had them on LP. He transfured the tracks to CD and sent them to me. They sounded like typical noisey old LP recordings but I cleaned up and de-noised some of my favorite tracks and made a 10 track favorite picks on CD. If you want the tracks, I can rip them and convert to MP3's at 128 kbps and send them to you via emai.

Re: Realistic drums

Giga Sudio!.
Find a studio that will turn your MIDI tracks into WAV's. I use GS to create Drum tracks. I use the Acoustic Essentials drum kit.
I use Cooledit Pro to combine each drum into a song. But I have used Band in a Box to create a complete Demo rendered with in BIAB.
You need at least 500Mhz Celeron. 800 PIII or Duron. is recomended by GS but if you avoid long cymbal samples and record track by track especially if you have a seperate MIDI machine from your WAV machine I use a (P150 quite sucessfully) you can get good results.
For a budget system check out Powertracks pro $29 for PG music. 16 bit multitrack plus 48 track MIDI with post production tools. Scour the net for Drum Samples or record your own!.
If you can get hold of GS LE $? you are well on the way. You could use AWE 32 type card to load up samples (need SIP Memory).

I will be running a tutorial on my site http://www.fozclark.com
soon which looks at these issues
regards
Foz

Re: Realistic drums

: Well, here is the thing... me and my band want to record a demo, but we don't have money to pay for a recording studio, so we're making everything on the pc. We have recorded vocals, guitars, and keyboards. Now, we want drums in the songs, but we can't record them (lack of microphones and equipement) and the MIDI drum kit really sucks!
: My question is, where can I get a cool-realistic-sounding virtual drum kit, if any? Is there sofware, plug ins or other stuff that can give me a great and powerful drum sound?

I got good drums sounds from sample cd's. Check them out if you want.
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/260/christian_palladino.html

OR you could...

why don't you try recording a sample of each piece of percusion that is on your drummers kit; e.g.: a snare hit, a kick, a closed hihat, an open hihat, etc.
you'd only be using a single mic, have no problems with bleed AND you get the sound of your own drummer's kit, which should make even the most technology-terrified drummer a lit bit more at ease [in my experience drummers usually have HATED the idea of electronic drums, but I don't get out much...lol]
then load your samples into a software sequencer - I LOVE the VST sequencers, esp. Linplug's free RM F drum sampler.
you could even record fills [in tempo for the song, of course] & put them in.
best of luck...& contact me for more info if you desire...

Re: OR you could try a tracker

you could use the recorded drum set's sounds (snares, hihats, etc) as wav's in a tracker (my tip is fasttracker 2.09) and arrange the beat as you please. tracker is easy-to-use, able to output in wav format, and FREE. quality is acceptable.

Re: Realistic drums

Hi you,
First tip: Masterbeat 2.0 is a professional Virtual Drumsampler and it is not expansive.Page : www. Masterbeat.de

Otherwise i have a lot of good Drumsamples in Wave/Format, that i could share.

Second Tip: The Drum Samples Page:http://spec.ch.man.ac.uk/~ashley/drums.html

My email: Pingelk@web.de

Good Luck

Klaus

Re: Realistic drums

You could try using <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/FruityLoops_win95/">Fruityloops</a> to generate drum beats. Save your beats as WAV and blend them in. You can download drum packs from many places on the web. These packs can be loaded into Fruity. I usually get my WAV loops together and assemble the final edit of the song in <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/AcidMusicDemo/">ACID</a>.

Lisa

: Well, here is the thing... me and my band want to record a demo, but we don't have money to pay for a recording studio, so we're making everything on the pc. We have recorded vocals, guitars, and keyboards. Now, we want drums in the songs, but we can't record them (lack of microphones and equipement) and the MIDI drum kit really sucks!
: My question is, where can I get a cool-realistic-sounding virtual drum kit, if any? Is there sofware, plug ins or other stuff that can give me a great and powerful drum sound?

I would like to know also !

One thing I can say, the most realistic drum sounds I've ever heard was of the Solton arranger (MS-100). I'm trying to get these sounds as a drum kit files.... any idea ?

I would like to know also !

One thing I can say, the most realistic drum sounds I've ever heard was of the Solton arranger (MS-100). I'm trying to get these sounds as a drum kit files.... any idea ?

How do I use software to record to PC?

I am a guitarist-songwriter and would like to record my demo's straight to PC. How do I begin?

Re: How do I use software to record to PC?

ok you dont say whether you want to mic your guitar up or whether you are going to plug it straight into your soundcard. you need to get summink like cakewalk guitar studio or just a copy of soundforge if you just want guitar and no drums or other instruments on other tracks, otherwise if you want to do the full multitrack thing with drums keyboards and vocals, pro tools free is the best FREE download i have seen in long long time.
good luck!!!
jon
: I am a guitarist-songwriter and would like to record my demo's straight to PC. How do I begin?

CD architect, , USB compatibility

I have purchased the HP 8200 external (USB) CDRW. when i try through Cd Architect to slect the drive it does not detect my HP CDRW. the same thing happens when i try to set it myself throug the advanced options.
Does this mean that CD architect does not suport USB CDRW's??... please someone help...

Re: CD architect, , USB compatibility

I downloaded CD Architect demo since I wanted to record continuous mix cd but I came over a same problem since I also have an external burner. I'm happy I didn't end up buying the CD architect. What I don't understand is that I have a Sound Forge 5.0 and it allows me to burn cd through it but it doesn't work w/ Cd architect and SF5XP.
What I suggest 2U is if you bought the CD Architect send an e-mail to Sonic Foundry tech. support and go from there.

Re: CD architect, , USB compatibility

: I downloaded CD Architect demo since I wanted to record continuous mix cd but I came over a same problem since I also have an external burner. I'm happy I didn't end up buying the CD architect. What I don't understand is that I have a Sound Forge 5.0 and it allows me to burn cd through it but it doesn't work w/ Cd architect and SF5XP.
: What I suggest 2U is if you bought the CD Architect send an e-mail to Sonic Foundry tech. support and go from there.

You are correct that SF 5.0 does not support
CD Architect as a plugin. This is a shame, because CDA is one of the deepest and best burning
software applications for true "Red Book" disc at once CD creation. This is why I did not upgrade from SF 4.5 to 5.0. I would suggest that you acquire a copy of Soundforge 4.5 to run CD Architect, and run it along with 5.0. Good luck!

you can creat a cd image

thanks for your advice. i looked at the syported CDR's in the Sonic Foundry Hmpg but it seems that it only supports ATAPI SCSI and IDE drives.
you can always creat a cd image (wav) and then copy it to your cd via any cdr burner programm. however.. it will be copied as one track..

SAVE ME

i need a zip file that has every note fo a pianno for examplw
i need cdefgab all the flats and sharps dont worry about speed or pich i can change that preferrable in wav or mp3

Re: SAVE ME

umm are you going to load this to a sampler??? if so you only need one... preferably a C... the sampler, when used with a keyboard, should map the sound to the full exent of the keys and adjust the pitch accordingly... albeit you will need to edit the sample set parameters to allow for authentic decay and sustain and "nuance"

.vs to mp3

I have a VS-840 recording workstation that uses a 100Mb zip drive. When I try to open these files on my PC they are regognized as .VS file. What is a .VS? And how do I convert it to MP3?

Re: .vs to mp3

It's a two stage process. If you go to http://www.virtualstudio.org/Heber/DOCS/download.html, you'll find software which converts the .vs files to .wav files. You can then convert these to MP3 using one of the many progs available.

Andy

difference in 33 45 speeds

Does anyone know the percentage difference in 33 and a third and 45 vinyl speeds? I need to digitally speed up a 45 recording that was mistakenly recorded at 33.

Re: difference in 33 45 speeds

33 and 45 are speeds and they mean
33-turns/min
45-turns/min or RPM's
so do the math...

providing magical math service

Up from the piles of pencil shavings and spend calculator batteries, the Math Fairy rises to help yet another numerically challenged individual work the magic that is MATH.

With a sweep of a wand the Math Fairy magically divides 45 by 33.33 to get 1.350135.

With a gentle tap of the wand and a sprinkling of fairy dust, the Math Fairy rounds the number off to 1.35.

"What does this mean?" you ask.

The Math Fairy replies, "45 is 135% of 33.33. If you were going to increase something from 33.33 to 45, you would increase it by 35% therefore raising it to 135% of the original number, that being 33.33."

So the Math Fairy continues in the struggle to perpetuate the magic of mathematics, unaware that he was long ago rendered unnecessary by the invention of the calculator.

Luckily for the Math Fairy, some people are unaware of this invention or unschooled on its use.

WRK files to mp3 files???

i need help converting my cake walk pro audio 9 wrk files to mp3 files so i can burn them to cd

Re: WRK files to mp3 files???

: i need help converting my cake walk pro audio 9 wrk files to mp3 files so i can burn them to cd

I came to this page to find out the same thing.
So far, the only way I have been able to do that is to get an audio recorder and a Wav to Mp3 converter, Start the recorder, press play in cakewalk, when your song is finished recording, save it as "[Your Song Name].wav" (if the audio recorder can save as mp3, then great!), Then, using your wav to mp3 converter, convert your new wav file to an mp3, and there!, You have your wrk in mp3 format.

If you don't use soundfonts, there is a MUCH easier way of doing it. simply save your song (in cakewalk) as a .mid file (standard midi format) and on the internet you will find plenty on midi to wav converters.

Hope that works for you!
David Wood
(DavidT_Wood@Yahoo.ca)

Re: WRK files to mp3 files???

Yeah.... in cakewalk there's a little thing called "mixdown audio" click on that lil' gimic, and choose the fle type you want to save it as, then it'll take all those .wav based recording segments and throw em all in to your mp3/wav/wma.

WRK files to mp3 files???

i need help converting my cake walk pro adio 9 wrk files to mp3 files so i can burn them to cd

Re: WRK files to mp3 files???

: i need help converting my cake walk pro adio 9 wrk files to mp3 files so i can burn them to cd
please send this program to my email adress

WRK files to mp3 files

i need help converting my cake walk pro adio 9 wrk files to mp3 files so i can burn them to cd

Using Cakewalk for notating only

I want to use Cakewalk simply for notating (rather than handwriting)piano music. Cakewalk automatically changes/inserts notes/rests to match the measures. Can this auto function be switched off?

Can't find software!

I have been looking for a software program called MiDiasaurus. It is a early childhood piano software to educate using a MIDI keyboard. Can you help?

Re: Can't find software!

<a href="http://google.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=MiDIsaurus&hc=0&hs=0">Try here</a>!

Lisa

: I have been looking for a software program called MiDiasaurus. It is a early childhood piano software to educate using a MIDI keyboard. Can you help?

Have studio, drum machine, now need effects

for guitar and vocals. I have PCDrummer Pro, Quartz Audio Master Pro, guitars etc. What type of effects processor software would be appropriate? Preferably something less than $100. Maybe a shareware demo version, and if it works well, would then be willing to purchase. I'm relatively new at this, and there are so many things to consider, with compatablilty and the likes. Any help at all would be most appreciated.

WMA to MP3 (Not the other way around!)

i just bought a RIO mp3 player, and it advertises that it stores up to 4 hours of music. i later found out that this was only in WMA format, and since the RIO software doesn't allow for conversion of MP3 to WMA, i downloaded it from microsoft. BIG mistake. WMA files are AWFUL! whenever i'm running one and i choose to run another after it, my computer freezes. just listening to them makes my computer freeze after about 3 minutes. the real bad part is that i converted all my mp3's to WMAs. since it took me a long time to get all of it, and i don't want to have to get it all again, i was wondering if there was any software that allows me to convert WMAs to MP3s?

silent subliminals

hey
I just came across something called silent subliminals.The technical details of the patent can be found at<HTML>
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basically an almost inaudible signal is modulated by the input from a microphone (or whatever: wav file).
is there any piece of sound editing software ,that could acomplish the same task ?
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</HTML>
basically an almost inaudible signal is modulated by the input from a microphone (or whatever: wav file).
is there any piece of sound editing software ,that could acomplish the same task ?

silent subliminals

hey
I just came across something called silent subliminals.The technical details of the patent can be found at<HTML>
<BODY> <a href=" http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1='5,159,703'.WKU.&OS=PN/5,159,703&RS=PN/5,159,703>
</BODY>
</HTML>
basically an almost inaudible signal is modulated by the input from a microphone (or whatever: wav file).
is there any piece of sound editing software ,that could acomplish the same task ?

Separating music from a song

Can anyone tell me abt a programme that can
separate music from a song????
please somebody help me....

Re: Separating music from a song

: Can anyone tell me abt a programme that can
: separate music from a song????
: please somebody help me....

It can be done, not very well though.
I take it that you mean separating the instrumental from the song.
Try using the nullsoft voice removal plugin that comes with winamp. If you want the song back to file, then use the waveout plugin at the same time.

Re: Separating music from a song

Removing music to be left with only vocals is possible in theory. If you were to have a song and the instrumental of the same that is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT MATCH (amplitude,volume,pitch etc.). What you could do is use a program like Sound Forge (any version will do) and what u do is take an instrumental version, use a command "invert" which will invert all the channels than copy it (mix it) exactly on top of the original song. This is called destructive interference. In the perfect world it will work, only problem is we don't live in that world. Who ever manages to do this will make a lot of money. So go get rich.

Re: Separating music from a song

can't be done...

Re: Separating music from a song

It can be done, but it's painstaking and you WILL, I repeat WILL, lose some of the vocals that share frequencies with any of the music. You can definitely quiet the music enough to make it blend into a song, but generally there will ALWAYS be a TINY part of the music to it, so don't solo the voice with NO sound masking any of those ghosts. What's had a moderate amount of success for me is to use the 30 band EQ option in Cool Edit. 30 bands is enough to drop down MOST of what you don't want to a nearly inaudible level. if the vocals are in the lower octaves, run a lowpass filter over it with a BIT of resonance, to get rid of the ghosts on the high end. If the vocals are high in octave run a High Pass filter with a bit of resonance to get rid of the lower end. That SHOULD hide the music enough for it to be used in a song, if not, it's a good start. ;P Cheers!

can't copy/extract audio from Mac DVD-ROM

I can't extract or copy audio (from audio-recordable CDs) from my G4 Mac DVD-ROM drive. What can I do?
The same CDs WILL extract/copy from a G4 with a non-DVD drive (I use one at work). Therefore it appears to be the drive that's the problem, not the CD, not 'copy protection', as a friend suggested, and not Toast (unless it's the drivers from Toast).
As I said earlier, I can copy the same CD at work, using a G4 and the same version of Toast (4.0.2).

I've got an excellent home recording setup (Mac, Fostex digi, Audio CD recorder, CD burner, Cubase, Cakewalk, etc.) so it seems a shame to have to go elsewhere to copy from my original audio-recordable CDs.
Oh, incidentally, the DVD-ROM drive WILL play these CDs and WILL extract from an ordinary CD or from a commercially produced CD.
ANy advice or help will be greatly appreciated.

Re: can't copy/extract audio from Mac DVD-ROM

I do this with forty-two and Audacity:

Use forty-two to convert the DVD to VCD. It takes a long time, but you'll be left with a few output files, including an mp2 of the audio portion.

Then use Audacity to import the mp2, divide into individual tracks, and export them as mp3s (or whatever suits your needs).

Regardless of the tools used, I think this is the minimum number of conversion/compression steps to go from a DVD to mp3.

forty-two: http://www.kaisakura.com/
Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Extraction of music from concert dvd.

I have a concert dvd that I just want to extract the live music off of. Is it possible? Every I try to drop and drag the songs, it won't allow it. I also want the songs separated into the same tracks as on the dvd. All songs come up separately as in chapters, but cannot extract as of yet. Need wisdom.

Evolution Sound Studio Pro

I've just installed this on my new PC, but for some reason I can't access sounds other than those in the default list. Every time I select an instrument from the Korg M1 list for example, all it does is use the corresponding instrument from the standard list. Where am I going wrong?

Dave

Soundfonts and bank problems in Logic Audio.

I have Logic Audio Platinum, and a SoundBlaster Live! card. First, I have only 1 drumset, and I don't know why! Do you know how to configure logic or the soundcard so I'll get all the standard drumsets?

Second, I downloaded some soundfonts, and loaded them in different banks with the program called SoundFont in the Creative Launcher. But I've tried everything in Logic, and I can't get the soundfonts to work. Have any of you got the same problem, and solved it?

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