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Music software for machintosh

Posted by Ricardo Takaki on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 15:02.

Hi Friends
I'm thinking to buy an Imac for me specially to work with music recording and such things.
I really appreciate if you guys have any suggestions about softwares that could offer a good record quality with affordable prices.
If you know about some free or shareware ones I think it's better..
Regards and thanks for the help

Ricardo Takaki

Re: Music software for machintosh

Posted by Lisa on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 22:47.

You'll find all the best and popular <a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/mac/top20/">Mac software here</a>. You should seriously consider ProTools Free Version.

Lisa

: Hi Friends
: I'm thinking to buy an Imac for me specially to work with music recording and such things.
: I really appreciate if you guys have any suggestions about softwares that could offer a good record quality with affordable prices.
: If you know about some free or shareware ones I think it's better..
: Regards and thanks for the help

: Ricardo Takaki

Sound forge errors

Posted by Nigel Bird on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 15:02.

when ever i want to alter a sample or use an effect with sound forge 5.0
ERROR: The 'microsoft sound mapper' playback devise does not support one or more of the current format perameters(sample rate;number of channels;or bits per sample)

Re: Sound forge errors

Posted by Fukhead on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 15:46.

: when ever i want to alter a sample or use an effect with sound forge 5.0
: ERROR: The 'microsoft sound mapper' playback devise does not support one or more of the current format perameters(sample rate;number of channels;or bits per sample)

Most likely, you sound card doesn't support the format, or the level at which the sample is at. when i try to open a 48000 mh sample, my soundcard gives me the same error. try smaller samples...
THe great FUkhead

Re: Sound forge errors

Posted by Scott R. Garrigus on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 20:21.

Hi Nigel,

In Sound Forge, try choosing Options>Preferences>Wave. Then in the Playback and Record drop-down lists, make sure your sound card driver is listed there instead of the Microsoft Mapper.

Best,
Scott

--
Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Power!, Sound Forge Power!, and SONAR Power! books, and Publisher of the DigiFreq music technology newsletter. Learn about cool tips and techniques for your music software by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... go to:
http://www.garrigus.com/

Re: Sound forge errors

Posted by Ramon on Fri, 12/26/2003 - 13:52.

Hi Scott,
I just read your recommendation and tried selecting another driver, but I still come up with the same messaage. It was working fine for a long time, then I installed a new screen saver and now I get that message and cannot get arround it. I uninstalled the screen saver, but still it will not operate. I have tried changing the record rate, but still the same. I am running windows 98SE on a 486 computer. Any other suggestions?
Thanks
Ramon

: In Sound Forge, try choosing Options>Preferences>Wave. Then in the Playback and Record drop-down lists, make sure your sound card driver is listed there instead of the Microsoft Mapper.

: Best,
: Scott

What's the best free midi/audio sequencer?

Posted by Ivan on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 14:05.

That also works with the soundblaster live sound card.

Thanks for any help.

Re: What's the best free midi/audio sequencer?

Posted by Scott R. Garrigus on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 20:24.

Hi Ivan,

That would probably be Massiva. If you do a search here on the site, you should be able to find it.

Best,
Scott

--
Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Power!, Sound Forge Power!, and SONAR Power! books, and Publisher of the DigiFreq music technology newsletter. Learn about cool tips and techniques for your music software by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... go to:
http://www.garrigus.com/

How to record a streaming broadcast on winamp??

Posted by Seasoul on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 13:08.

hi :)
i'd like to record one of my favorite radio stations on the net, which broadcasts through winamp. Is there a way i can record it, in a wav or mp3 format?
Thx for helpin' me ^_^

Peace, Sea.

Re: How to record a streaming broadcast on winamp??

Posted by Daveyboy on Wed, 08/01/2001 - 02:54.

I'd also like help doing this if anyone knows how I'd sure appreciate it
Dave
gilligan@navy.org

Re: How to record a streaming broadcast on winamp??

Posted by REDWATER on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 19:20.

: hi :)
: i'd like to record one of my favorite radio stations on the net, which broadcasts through winamp. Is there a way i can record it, in a wav or mp3 format?
: Thx for helpin' me ^_^

: Peace, Sea.

Re: I am your solution

Posted by grAf1kante on Sat, 07/24/2004 - 02:44.

I little program that i have can record live radio stations in mp3 and winamp video streaming in nsv (nullsoft streaming video)format... e-mail me.

Re: How to record a streaming broadcast on winamp??

Posted by vincent scotti eirene on Fri, 08/03/2001 - 19:34.

go to download.com

do a search for streamripper

u will love it!

vincent BLAST FURNACE RADIO
http://www.notowar.com/blast.m3u

The Latency Misnomer, explained... well, sort of...

Posted by Steve...R on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 12:53.

All,

I have read a lot of information on latency and have found that a lot of people consider the soundcard to be the only consideration to make when considering latency. Although this is a good sound way of thinking as the main problem with in/out audio latency is heavily affected by the audio card and drivers. I have read that the operating system and system hardware are much to blame as well and felt that it would be of benefit to quote this information from an editorial I read.

QUOTE:

The research examined the audio latency of major operating systems running on modern equipment.
It was authored by Karl MacMillan, Michael Droettboom and Ichiro Fujinaga of the Peabody
Institute – part of John Hopkins University in the US.

Audio latency is defined in the report as the minimum time required for a computer to store a
sample from an audio interface into application memory, and to copy that sample from application
memory to the audio interface output. The authors also took the time spent converting
analogue to digital and back to analogue sound into account. Long latency speeds when working with audio mean that musicians experience delays in listening to what they play when trying to create music tracks. This also makes it challenging to record live performances - as the latency speed can affect the sounds heard through the monitors.

END QUOTE

All though this doesn't state much, you can see that the operation is affected by the speed of the given OS and system buss so, when you consider your audio card, consider what operating system is best for it and make sure you buy a computer that is made with audio processing in mind. Take this advice and the people complaining about latency when using this that or another hardware/software will hopefully reduce...

I thought it was interesting anyway... ;0)

Regards

Steve...R

Re:

Posted by kozida on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 14:32.

Besides OS, fast hard drives and cpus are the particular items that should have been mentioned in the last paragraph.
If you think that your soundblaster platinum would go down to 6 msecs if you have the rest of the hardware, guess again...

Re:

Posted by jack on Wed, 08/01/2001 - 09:56.

: Besides OS, fast hard drives and cpus are the particular items that should have been mentioned in the last paragraph.
: If you think that your soundblaster platinum would go down to 6 msecs if you have the rest of the hardware, guess again...

I use a Soundblaster with APS Drivers and I have 8 msecs latency.....

Re:

Posted by kozida on Wed, 08/01/2001 - 18:46.

That's why I said 6.
Personally I can't work with limited inputs(2 or 4) of 16bit 44.1Khz quality, but my post was focused on the need of cpus & hard disks because of the need for multiple wave tracks with multiple effects on them...

XG WORKS VERSION 4

Posted by Mal Evans on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 11:59.

If anybody out there can swap this version of XG Works I have music and graphics software galore to trade. I will not pay for this software. My version 2 came with the SW1000 Card and Yamaha have no right to charge £70 + just to upgrade. Still, thats another subject. Hope to hear from you.

Picking up computer noise when recording

Posted by Kate Whittaker on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 11:31.

Besides the obvious of not having my mic near my computer, which isn't an option when you're recording directly to sound forge through the sound card, how do I not pick up the sound of the computer running through the mike. There's a constant hum beneath all my interviews which I assume is the computer fan but not altogether sure. When I edit it out it affects the quality of the the sound and speech creating a slurring. I can't seem to just edit out the hum without reducing sound quality so I'm trying to go at it by not picking up the noise to start with. Also could an external mixer be the cause of the hum and if so is this just a matter of a ground? Any help would be appreciated this is frustrating.
Kate

A breakout box is a good idea

Posted by drk_sum on Fri, 08/03/2001 - 17:42.

but it is a waste of money if you run TRS cable from your mic. Get a box with XLR inputs and use balanced cable.
Admittedly, this will only elimintae noise induced into the cable, but it's a start.

<a href="http://drk-sum.50megs.com" target="_top">production tips at drk_sum.com</a>

Re: Picking up computer noise when recording

Posted by Matt on Wed, 08/01/2001 - 17:56.

In a nutshell, separate signal cables from power cables and use the same power source.
I once had this problem and I spent hours trying to figure out what it was. Then in an instant I saw what my mistake was. I had made the simple but easily overlooked problem of putting my signal cable (the one going from my mixer to the soundcard) parallel to a power cable. The electric field produced by the power cable gave a constant buzz in my recordings. When I pinned the signal cable 3 feet away from the power cable, the buzz disappeared completely.
Another problem I once had was when I had my mixer and my computer plugged into separate power jacks. This in effect created a ground differential which produced hum.

Why isn't it an option...

Posted by Steve...R on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 13:21.

Computers are noisy and that is that. If you have a mic then get a longer lead and move the mic away from the computer. Point it the other way. What type of mic is it? this makes a difference. Recording 'source' material is the most important part of any recording. If you pay attention to the quality of the source, then you will make the other processes of mixing and mastering a much more pleasant and rewarding experience.. Get a longer lead and stand in the other room... ;0)

The chances are that the noise you are hearing is an electrical hum which isn't uncommon. This could be a standard mains hum through bad sheilding and cheap equipment, badly place cables and leads. It is easy to find out if it is by "notch filtering" 50hz (UK and Europe) 60hz (states and maybe other places). I suspect soundforge will have a filter specifically set to deal with these frequencies. Any sole vocal will not be diversly affected by reduction of this frequency unless you're louis armstrong or barry white... hehe

Cya

Steve....R

get a external device (breakout box)

Posted by stephan on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 16:12.

get a delta 44 or someting similar in motu or solo these device convert you analog signal via a breakout box since the signal is converted outside the computer it doesnt pic up static or oher electrical sound generated by the internal converter located on the soundcard sitting in the computer. a device like this one can cost between 250 us up to 1500 and more. Get someting basic with few inputs and you ll be happy

have a good time

Re: get a external device (breakout box)

Posted by jon on Wed, 08/01/2001 - 21:30.

this won't help if a bad mic is the problem! have u tried turning off yer vdu when recording? cut out the mixer and you'll soon know if that's at fault.

jon

: get a delta 44 or someting similar in motu or solo these device convert you analog signal via a breakout box since the signal is converted outside the computer it doesnt pic up static or oher electrical sound generated by the internal converter located on the soundcard sitting in the computer. a device like this one can cost between 250 us up to 1500 and more. Get someting basic with few inputs and you ll be happy

: have a good time

Urgent: Programming MIDI controller...

Posted by vith on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 11:20.

Hi there,

I need some urgent help on programming MIDI controllers
like (JL coopers FaderMaster) from a Win32 application. I'm trying to set the volume level in my audio player application through the controller.

Any help in this regard would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

Regards,
vith.

Yamaha UW-500 or Roland U-something

Posted by Ex-Roy on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 11:18.

I am desperate to hear from someone with experience from either of these two synth-modules.

Re: Yamaha UW-500 or Roland U-something

Posted by Hogge on Sun, 12/23/2001 - 04:27.

: I am desperate to hear from someone with experience from either of these two synth-modules.
Hi
I have a UW500. But first I must say that it isn't
a sound module. Its a Analog to digital converter
and a midiinterface. The main advantage of it is that
your computers processor don't have to deal with the
ad-conversion and that its using the USB port.
I use it on my laptop

RE:cool edit pro

Posted by perry philips on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 09:22.

Hi,
I am new to recording software.I seek info on how to
basically use cool edit pro.Record,set the bar length,
I do not seem to find the help section user friendly
its very technical (for me)
what software need to use with it such as a mixer.
thank you.
Perry

Re: RE:cool edit pro

Posted by HiNotes on Wed, 08/01/2001 - 03:52.

: Hi,
: I am new to recording software.I seek info on how to
: basically use cool edit pro.Record,set the bar length,
: I do not seem to find the help section user friendly
: its very technical (for me)
: what software need to use with it such as a mixer.
: thank you.
: Perry

Cool Edit is a good program, but it's not very easy to use. I use Blaze Audio RipEditBurn- it does everything I need and is much more intuitive. www.blazeaudio.com.

Re: RE:cool edit pro

Posted by Junji on Wed, 08/01/2001 - 14:07.

Perry,

I would have to agree with HiNotes. The Rip-Edit-Burn program's help is great for beginners (like me) and the recording part of the program is set up to look (and function) just like a tape deck. Very nice.

Midi

Posted by chris on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 09:00.

I Have Fruity loops as well as Many other Programs Like cubase, cakewalk 9.0, ect.. But for some reason I can not get them to play the samples when I use My Midi Keyboard. I have all the right Drivers Including Sonic foundry Midi Driver. I do know how to set the settings Properly in the programs, but it still isn't working. I'm knew at the "computer" part of recording but have worked with many stand alone midi and recording units. So if anyone can help Please do so Thnaks --------a bunch

Program that converts voice into music notes

Posted by Cameron on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 06:03.

A few years back I was looking for a program to record music from a cassette tape to my hard disk and then make a CD from it. I downloaded a program that if a person sang a note into a microphone using the sound card that the promgram would convert the sound to a note that it placed on a music staff. The program would write the sheet music as well as play the note on any intrument you chose. I bought a music program and therefore did not keep track of this program. Does anyone out there know of such a program and if so where can I get it?

If you need more info to help me please e-mail me.

Thanks,
Cameron

Re: Program that converts voice into music notes

Posted by George. on Sat, 08/04/2001 - 01:39.

: A few years back I was looking for a program to record music from a cassette tape to my hard disk and then make a CD from it. I downloaded a program that if a person sang a note into a microphone using the sound card that the promgram would convert the sound to a note that it placed on a music staff. The program would write the sheet music as well as play the note on any intrument you chose. I bought a music program and therefore did not keep track of this program. Does anyone out there know of such a program and if so where can I get it?

: If you need more info to help me please e-mail me.

: Thanks,
: Cameron
I think there is a program called auto score availible. Try www.wildcat.com/site/homepage.htm
Ithink they have this information for you, Let me know
if it is what you're looking for.

George

Re: Program that converts voice into music notes

Posted by SMM on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 06:24.

Hello Cameron,

See these two listings in the software section:

<a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/WIDI/">WIDI Recognition System</a>, and
<a href="http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Digital_Ear/">Digital Ear</a>

Best of luck.

: A few years back I was looking for a program to record music from a cassette tape to my hard disk and then make a CD from it. I downloaded a program that if a person sang a note into a microphone using the sound card that the promgram would convert the sound to a note that it placed on a music staff. The program would write the sheet music as well as play the note on any intrument you chose. I bought a music program and therefore did not keep track of this program. Does anyone out there know of such a program and if so where can I get it?

: If you need more info to help me please e-mail me.

: Thanks,
: Cameron

Recording Problem

Posted by Chelle on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 05:05.

Hi, I don't know if anyone has encountered this, I hope someone can help. I am currently running a 20bit Gina Soundcard, with a Korg NX5R sound module with Cubase VST Score 3.7
I sequence the music in midi using the sound module for different sounds (obviously), and then record it into a wav file through the soundcard. Somewhere, I either have a settings or hardward fault, as the right channel is always higher, and there are minor crackles and fuzz on the left side. It's not the speakers, as they work fine in other programs, and the distortions are recorded into the audio file, even when burned and played elsewhere. I don't know where to start to find this problem to correct it. I have been lowering the right channel during recording to compensate, but this is definitely not the best way, and it doesn't get rid of noise problems. Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Same old things...

Posted by Steve...R on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 13:12.

It wouldn't suprise me if the problem was something to do with your cabling. It could be a hardware fault, is the card properly in it's slot (PCI I think). Unplug everything and start again. Remove the PCI and re insert it. Reload the newest drivers for the card and swap the leads around that come from the Korg. If the problem goes to the right channel, then it is the sound before the cards input and is it stays the same then it has something to do with the card or onwards.

Try a different audio application and watch the LED's to see what it going on. You can't tell the problem from listening to the output of the computer as the problem may also lie there. Analyse the sound with your eyes as well as your ears.

Best of luck though...

Steve...R

Re: Recording Problem

Posted by Trog on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 09:26.

have you checked your cables are working properly - swap the left and right

For recording

Posted by S.P Chatterjee on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 04:30.

I have a sound card yamaha-734 in which I can get two recording input channel(left & Right). In which type of sound card I will get minimum four input channel. Please give the name of the sound card and price. Is it possible that two sound card can instal in same PC,How?

Re:

Posted by kozida on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 14:14.

Egosys wami rack 24 is a low price (£600) 4 input soundcard. See more at:
www.egosys.net
Digidesign has Digi toolbox XP with 4 inputs at:
www.digidesign.com
You can also see Digi 001 on site (8 inputs)...

I've never used this...

Posted by Steve...R on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 13:05.

...but I did nearly buy one myself but opted for a korg 1212 because of the ADAT interface. I have read some good reviews and if anything, it will give you somewhere to start. There is a Delta 44 as well although it doesn't have the SP/DIF connections that seem to be standard in all decent audio cards these days. If you don't have it, you may one day miss it....

Steve..R

working with vagas pro.

Posted by melvin s. on Mon, 07/30/2001 - 22:54.

hi, can anyone help me with vagas pro i need all details please thnx.

recording streaming windows media on a macintosh

Posted by imac on Mon, 07/30/2001 - 22:35.

is there a way to record streaming windows media format for the mac??

If....

Posted by Steve...R on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 12:59.

You can stream those files through WMA, then you may be able to adjust your MIME settings in your browser to boot up a different program when it receives the file that would usually prompt your mac to boot up WMP. I don't know if this will work or not but I can do it with some streams. I have MACAMP setup to do it and that has a record button that streams radio and net streams onto my HD in a wave file or even direct to MP3. I think it's $15 which can't be sniffed at and there is a demo version so check it out.

There maybe other ways I don't know about but this is a better than nothing idea and an introduction to a great application....

Steve...R

Re: If....

Posted by imac on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 13:59.

thanks steve.... i d/led that proggie but not sure about what i need to do with MIME settings can u help me?

Re: If....

Posted by Steve...R on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 20:58.

....you weren't going to ask that .... hehe...

The reason for that is, I have usually used the program installation offering of changing the MIME settings for you. I think if you go into your browsers "preferences" and then to "applications", you can see a list of MIME types (the header that is sent when you request a file download etc so the computer knows what application to use) and the applications that are used for those types. If you can identify what boots Windows player (it should be listed on the application name and will be more than one) then you might be able to double click on it and then change it to the application you want to use, Macamp. Whether mac amp can deal with a particular stream that is meant for WMP or not I don't know. If you change this MIME setting, you can always change it back with no adverse affects. Try changing them and go and stream a WMP file and see what the browser boots up.

Macamp's preferences have a tick box called "Guard MIME types" which may make it hog the browsers choice when streaming and this could be a good thing. Experiment, that's all I can give you other than try and obtain the URL that the streams coming from and put that URL into MacAmp, (in the file menu) and see what happens.

Recording any length with an unregistered version of macamp is going to cheese you off as it's limited. It's worth the $15 registration fee so if you have it, get it over and done with and buy it. The amount of material you can record from the radio makes it worth while in no time at all.

Best of luck

Steve...R

download error

Posted by damian snellings on Mon, 07/30/2001 - 22:28.

I downloaded a few programs from this site that works fine. But now when I try to download from this site the download screen starts to flash like the cursor. If you can help I would be very thankful.

Re: download error

Posted by SMM on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 06:27.

Hi Damian,

<a href="mailto:carly@hitsquad.com">Email me</a> for further assistance. What software title(s) were you attempting to download from SMM?

Regards,
SMM

: I downloaded a few programs from this site that works fine. But now when I try to download from this site the download screen starts to flash like the cursor. If you can help I would be very thankful.

wami

Posted by pete on Mon, 07/30/2001 - 22:17.

I have a laptop and a wami box,looking for some pointers....

Re:

Posted by kozida on Tue, 07/31/2001 - 14:04.

If you could be more specific, I might be of assistance...

Limewire downloads

Posted by Shane Baura on Mon, 07/30/2001 - 22:07.

Hi.... For 2 months I performed audio downloads and they saved to the "Shared" folder as mp3 files. For some unknown reason, they now save as "Limewire documents" and now my players (RealPlayer and MusicMatch) do not recognize them. Can anyone tell me how to correct this problem. Thanks for a reply... (ps. please email me since I can never figure out how to get back to these message boards.)

Shane... email: sendittomyaddress@home.com

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