Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

Posted by Ed on Wed, 09/24/03 - 08:56:41.

I had posted back in May. I've since added a few more details.

Unfortunately Audible doesn’t offer any means whatsoever of supporting the use of their proprietary aa format (modified mp3 I believe) on mp3 cd players like the Rio Volt.

Conversion to mp3 seems the best alternative. When doing this, I’ve found that it’s nicest if the files are broken into tracks that are 3 to 5 minutes long. Goldwave will save the file into mp3 and split the files at points of silence in the recording. A nice feature!

To convert .aa to mp3s that are _ min long segments:
1. Open aa file in Goldwave providing your username and password (if this is the first file you’ve opened since installing codec (installed with audible manager)). Either select 'all files' from the dropdown or right click on the file, choose ‘open with’ and choose Goldwave.
2. ‘Trim’ any noise out of the first ~0.03 seconds: View, Zoom1:1, left click just to the right of the initial waveform, Edit, Trim, then to get back, View, All.
3. Set points for splitting: Tools, Cue Points, Auto Cue (my prefs are -30dB, 0.5 sec, 3min), OK, Close.
4. Save as wav (PCM signed, 16 bit mono)
5. Split file by: Tools, Cue Points, Split file, (saved as small 3 min long wav files), Close, then optionally close the wav file.
6. Encode the split files to mp3: File, Batch Processing, Add Folder, OK. Specify mp3 attributes on ‘convert’ tab (my prefs are Layer3, 24000Hz, 32kbps, mono), specify destination folder on ‘folder’ tab. Begin. Once finished encoding, OK, Cancel. Quit Goldwave.
7. Optionally, delete the wav files (both the single large and the small split ones to save disk space) – Done.

At roughly 14 MB per hour (of mono 32kbps), I can get well over 40 hours of listening time on one CD.

Time required to do the conversion is mostly waiting on the computer to process large files. I just timed a small 8 MB, 35min file. It took 3.5 minutes of my time to get it going (steps 1 to ‘begin’ in 6), then another 2 minutes to batch encode into mp3, for 5.5 minutes total. A larger file will take longer to get going as most of that 3.5 minutes is still spent waiting on the computer to deflash to disk, save as a wav, and split the file. (athlon xp1700+)

If you prefer to have the file as one large mp3 in addition to the small segments, you could alternately:
1. Open aa file in goldwave providing your username and password (if this is the first file you’ve opened since installing codec (installed with audible manager)).
2. ‘Trim’ any noise out of the first ~0.03 seconds.
3. Save as MP3 (my prefs are Layer3, 24000Hz, 32kbps, mono)
4. Tools, Cue Points, Auto Cue (my prefs are -30dB, 0.5 sec, 3min), split file (saved as small 3 min long mp3 files)
5. Done. Advantage is that you have the complete file as one mp3, disadvantage is that there is more encoding time.

Note that if you have a lot of aa files to convert, you can:
1. Batch Process all aa files to mp3 in one shot.
2. Do step 2 from above “Trim”, then do step 4 from above “auto cue” & “split” for each of the new mp3s.

This is using Audible Manager 3.5 and Goldwave 5.04. Good luck.
Note the more recent versions of Audible Manager include a codec that currently hangs Goldwave on opening the aa file. The older codec that comes with Audible Manager 3.5 does not.

Here is the link for AudibleManager 3.5.
http://download.audible.com/AM35/CD/AM_CDBurner.exe

Be sure to COMPLETELY uninstall AudibleManager before installing a different version. You should first find and save your aa files to another folder. (search files and folders for *.aa)

(I tried 3.6 once without luck, but didn’t exhaustively try it. If you get it to work, I want to know. Here is the link for AudibleManager 3.6.
http://download.audible.com/AM36/ActiveSetup.exe )

Note for Rio Volt users: In addition to the published limit of 999 files per disk, my SP250 seems to have a maximum number of filename characters per directory that it will handle. As I recall, it choked on 200 files that had a filename of ~30 characters. If I split them into different directories, it was OK, or if I shortened the name way down (~7 char) it was OK with 400 files. Best to keep the filenames rather short. And manual navigation (when you’re trying to get back to a particular part of a story) is easiest if they are put into directories of ~30 files per directory anyway.

Renaming lots of files? Try “Better File Rename.” It is a very flexible tool that allows you to rename files and folders very easily. It should have come with Windows. Very much worth the shareware fee.

BTW: The guy that has put together Goldwave has done an awesome job. I think he is exceptionally deserving of the shareware fee. I encourage everyone to support efforts like this one by purchasing the programs.

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Re: Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

I am on my way to Goldwave right now to pay for a registered copy. Awesome program. I am currently converting my whole Audible Library to MP3, on three computers using three different versions of Audible Manager -- 3.5., 3.6x and 4 -- and so far only had one file hang, and it went through the second time on the same computer. One problem: this takes a lot of time and a LOT of disc space. I ended up having to make one big .wav file, then a lot of smaller ones, and THEN converting to .MP3. I have two computers with 40G hard drives, and almost ran out of space doing just two books. Anyway, much thanks for your help, and for pointing me to Goldwave. This is the kind of thing the Internet does so well.

Norman

: BTW: The guy that has put together Goldwave has done an awesome job. I think he is exceptionally deserving of the shareware fee. I encourage everyone to support efforts like this one by purchasing the programs.

Re: Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

I'm using audible 4.0 and goldwave 5.08. The file conversion seems to be ok but when i hear the file it's in some way scrambled: the file begins with chapter 4 than goes on the second half of chapter 8 than back to chapter 1...how can i sove this problem?

Re: Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

I am curious about compression and file size. I've not been able to find an MP3 compression setting that gives the same quality as Audible format 4, and also keeps the file size to about 15MB/hour. Any suggestions?

Re: Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

I have followed your instructions and no luck. I get error msg: No codec is available to encode or decode audio format. Note I am using GW5.06 and AM3.5 I tried to post at sonic, where I read both long and update 3 step version, but Sonic hasn't seen me log in info and when I tried to to set up new account is says I already have account, but they do not ever send me the remider to my email. Anyway cant post there so had to post here.

crpaulk

Re: Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

Just a general question, do most mp3 players "remember" where they were when they are turned off? In other words, when I turn it back on, will it start playing the same song (or book) at the same place? I was pleasantly surprised that my Jens of Sweden MP-110 did this, I didn't think it would. Then I thought maybe this is a standard feature of most mp3 players, does anybody know?

Happy Holidays!

Re: Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

Thanks very much for this helpful guide. I got it all working on a very old PC laptop (333 MHz, 128 MByte of RAM) using the exact recipe you gave, except I used Goldwave v5.06. Using the latest AudibleManager4.0 with the Gear CD burning also caused Goldwave to hang when reading in the file.

However, on my newer laptop (2.4 GHz, 2 GByte of RAM), I have the latest AudibleManager4.0 with the Roxio CD burner (I have Roxio installed, and it seemed to work better than the Gear for me, which would only burn at 4X on a CD-R whereas Roxio allows me to burn at 20X). On this one, I was able to import the *.aa file no problem into Goldwave, so I don't know if it's using a different codec than the Gear version or not...

You can get the Roxio version at:
http://download.audible.com/AM36/ActiveSetupR.exe
Although the link seems to suggest it's version 3.6, the "about" box in Audible Manager tells me it's 4.0...

Thanks for taking the time to post your guide!

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: Here is the link for AudibleManager 3.5.
: http://download.audible.com/AM35/CD/AM_CDBurner.exe

: Be sure to COMPLETELY uninstall AudibleManager before installing a different version. You should first find and save your aa files to another folder. (search files and folders for *.aa)

: (I tried 3.6 once without luck, but didn’t exhaustively try it. If you get it to work, I want to know. Here is the link for AudibleManager 3.6.
: http://download.audible.com/AM36/ActiveSetup.exe )

Re: Audible Audio file conversion - How To - A Thorough Guide

After dinking with this for awhile, I learned one more IMPORTANT step in the process.

If you get hung up before the .aa file is fully loaded into GoldWave, click on the Previous/Restart (left arrow) button in the Audible Section Navigation window. It will then complete the load.