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Brien Maestro

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 550 Location: Exit 4, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| plasteredleg wrote: | | I have been running limewire for a while now, and all of a sudden, every download is infected with Wimad and all sorts of Trojan virus'. Can't download any dammed thing anymore without all the security in xp going off. Anyone know the cure or is it a trap, or is it to suck you in to pay to upgrade to the bloody Pro version ? |
You are a reckless and silly Internet user,
Get some "PAID FOR" virus protection bonehead! NOT the online kind...get something store bought. |
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Terry Virtuoso

Joined: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 50 Location: Adelaide. South Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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It's not the program. Whether it's the standard or Pro version the program itself does not carry viruses etc. and is not illegal - only the downloaded content.
This applies to all P2P programs.
It's legal to own a car but not to break the speed limit.
By illegally downloading copyright content you immediately become a target for every nut job who wants to mess up your computer.
If you're downloading without adequate virus protection you're skating on thin ice, very thin ice. |
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plasteredleg
Joined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the 1st grade lesson, in common sense, really needed that.
I asked a serious question.
The virus protection and security worked fine. Hence the reason why I knew the files were infected. That is the problem.
I was asking, is it the norm, for the program/Limewire, to instill a virus into every download, and is there a cure for it ? |
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Brien Maestro

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 550 Location: Exit 4, Alabama
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Once a virus infects a computer it is a lot like your family. It can come and go as it pleases. Walk into any room it chooses and touch anything it so desires.
It is completely irrelevant if limewire does this or not.
You are infected because that is what happens as a by-product of using peer-2-peer software.
Being ignorant of this is no excuse for being ignorant of this.
It is also not enough reason for me to act all grown up.
When you move around the 'net and get what looks like free music or full blown software or full length DVDs or porn or scanned books on how to save a life...the virus comes with it...do you know why?
Because there is no free lunch! |
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plasteredleg
Joined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I agree that there is no free lunch, and if I were downloading the latest content, then I deserve what I get. I don't download movies, or recent music content, only stuff, that frustratingly, I can't find/buy in the legit world. The program WinMX worked fine, until the record companies threatened to sue them big time, in their greed. If the artists were getting the royalties from record companies, then I would be happy to pay, but they're not are they ? I refuse to pay those greedy record co execs $30+ for one song ? Let the bastards finance their next Rolls Royce, from some other poor sap.
The program worked fine, up until about September last year, then bam, every bloody song had Wimad attached to it. Fortunately, software picked up the virus, and killed it. There may be a stray cookie somewhere, that is causing the problem, and that is what I am asking ? I have tried to reinstall, and same thing, hence the stray cookie idea. There must be a resident file somewhere ?
In so far as the internet being open season, I agree, that is why this computer has nothing important, or of any great value on it. If need be, format the h/d again, and keep going, no great loss. I would like to identify the file/cookie that is causing this tho ? |
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plasteredleg
Joined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Brien,
"Get some "PAID FOR" virus protection bonehead! NOT the online kind...get something store bought."
Boy, coming from the depths of the bayou, there's some great advice. I have virus protection, as well as a good firewall, how do you think I picked up the problem in the first place ? By using the Force ?
If you can't come up with anything of any value, please don't waste mine, and by the looks of it, quite a few others as time as well.
Bring back WinMX please. Had not a problem in the world with that |
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Brien Maestro

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 550 Location: Exit 4, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| plasteredleg wrote: | I agree that there is no free lunch, and if I were downloading the latest content, then I deserve what I get. I don't download movies, or recent music content, only stuff, that frustratingly, I can't find/buy in the legit world. The program WinMX worked fine, until the record companies threatened to sue them big time, in their greed. If the artists were getting the royalties from record companies, then I would be happy to pay, but they're not are they ? I refuse to pay those greedy record co execs $30+ for one song ? Let them finance their next Rolls Royce, from some other poor sap.
The program worked fine, up until about September last year, then bam, every song had Wimad attached to it. Fortunately, software picked up the virus, and killed it before any damage was done. There may be a stray cookie somewhere, that is causing the problem, and that is what I am asking ? I have tried to reinstall, and same thing, hence the stray cookie idea. There must be a resident file somewhere ?
In so far as the internet being open season, I agree, that is why this computer has nothing important, or of any great value on it. If need be, format the h/d again, and keep going, no great loss. I would like to identify the file/cookie that is causing this tho ? |
Peer-2-peer is a wonderful thing, it is a tool that has many uses yet to be discovered. And many more that may never see the light of day because of people. You may see it as just little ole you against the man and his money machine, I see it as justifying stealing. And this world that I live in needs no more of politicians, preachers, parents or pedestrians graying up the borders of what is good in character and what is acceptable behavior just because it is on the Internet.
I said what I said, you aren't helping your cause much as you continue to unfurl the background of this concern of yours.
Only a few things that I can do that may help. The chances of this virus being embedded too deep to extract are great. If it has gotten past virus software and firewalling, it's in for the long haul.
If you have made backups from this machine, burn them, they are infected.
If you have stored data to CD or DVD from this machine, burn them, they too are infected.
If, and especially if, you have a floppy drive that you have moved any data off this infected machine to, burn them, they are infected.
Then get your install cds for this machine and reinstall the OS. |
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plasteredleg
Joined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: |
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That is the problem Brien. Me thinks it is not a virus as such, but a bad cookie.
No other program on the computer is affected at all. Everything else works fine. Both resident as well as online virus checks, show nothing. Doing regular audit trails, confirms that no information from this computer is being hijacked by anyone else, so me thinks it is a quietly resident cookie somewhere, that as soon as Limewire is connected, it activates, and corrupts any attempt to download. Rather dastardly and ingenious to be sure, but not death defying.
My attempts at trying to download a song, as I said, that you can't even buy any more, even if you wanted to, pales into insignificance, when you look up on You Tube ??? People in concerts, with video cameras and so on, now, you want to talk about copyright breaches ? |
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Brien Maestro

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 550 Location: Exit 4, Alabama
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:27 am Post subject: |
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I have no interest in copyright matters.
Whatever is right, do that, whatever is honorable, do that.
A cookie is a text file, a flat file as it is also called. It cannot do much to you that you cannot intercept. Maybe remembers a page color, your name if you gave it, an IP header which is easily pulled from the browser, little stuff that only scares ya if you scare easily.
What is most likely happening is ANY time you start limewire you are automagically connected to a HOST of users looking to make waste of anyone that comes on the network.
My firewall statistics show that, JUST from being on the Internet I have been exposed to attack 452,654 TIMES!!! It further shows that it has protected my private data 6,423 in addition to just standing guard! And this even WITH a highly protected service providers security measures in front of my connection!
To me it is a no brainer.
Connecting using peer-2-peer is an attack waiting to happen. |
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