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Can I make my own music with software?

[The body of this post has been reconstituted from replies so it may differ from what was originally written.]

I would like to create my own "digital band" where I can create guitar
riffs, drums and bass. Ive heard of Cakewalk's Sonar 3 software but
Im not sure if its possible to make music from scratch with all the
effects etc...
I dont care about lyrics at this point, just want to make my own
music, is there software that can do this?

Re: Can I make my own music with software?

: I would like to create my own "digital band" where I can create guitar
: riffs, drums and bass. Ive heard of Cakewalk's Sonar 3 software but
: Im not sure if its possible to make music from scratch with all the
: effects etc...
: I dont care about lyrics at this point, just want to make my own
: music, is there software that can do this?

Re: Can I make my own music with software?

LOOK I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO I AM WRITING TO BUT WHATEVER UM CAN YOU EMAIL ME AND TELL ME WERE OR HOW I CAN MAKE MY OWN MUSIC WITH SOFTWARE.

Re: Can I make my own music with software?

All ya need is a copy of Steinberg Cubase SX and u can do everything that you could do in a full fledged studio. Combine it with a copy of Reason 2 or 2.5 and you'll be able to do more than you ever thought possible. These programs cost hundreds tho, but if u havn't got the munni, just search for the programs on iMesh or Kazaa. That's what I did and now I'm on a Music Technology course that trains me up using these two programs. I've already made three dance tunes and two ska punk songs with my mates using Cubase as my sequencer, mixer and rack of sampler, synth & effect units.

Re: Can I make my own music with software?

Jammer is my fav. for that sort of thing. You might want to look at Band in a Box too.

: I would like to create my own "digital band" where I can create guitar
: riffs, drums and bass. Ive heard of Cakewalk's Sonar 3 software but
: Im not sure if its possible to make music from scratch with all the
: effects etc...
: I dont care about lyrics at this point, just want to make my own
: music, is there software that can do this?

Re: Can I make my own music with software?

:i need some software for make my own music, i will want to do my own band.

imic and pro tools compatibility problems

Hello,

I have just bought an Imic and I have tried to connect it
with my Ibook 300. The system recognizes the device in the USB, but I
can't manage to get any input of sound. My microphone isn't the
problem and i have followed the instructions about the right hardware.
I have system 9.2.1. I have tried different extension sets, but this
didn't help.

On top of that, trying to switch the audio input to the USB makes Pro
Tools Free freeze while it is launching. I had already used an Imic
with Pro Tools free so i know they can be compatible.

Would switching to OS 9.2.2 be of any help?

I would be very grateful if someone could help me out.

Jean-Philippe Sauvé

Re: imic and pro tools compatibility problems

: Hello,
:
: I have just bought an Imic and I have tried to connect it
: with my Ibook 300. The system recognizes the device in the USB, but I
: can't manage to get any input of sound. My microphone isn't the
: problem and i have followed the instructions about the right hardware.
: I have system 9.2.1. I have tried different extension sets, but this
: didn't help.
:
: On top of that, trying to switch the audio input to the USB makes Pro
: Tools Free freeze while it is launching. I had already used an Imic
: with Pro Tools free so i know they can be compatible.

: Would switching to OS 9.2.2 be of any help?
:
: I would be very grateful if someone could help me out.
:
: Jean-Philippe Sauvé

Email or call http://www.sweetwater.com/ They can answer anything!
Lance

Midi Editor

Hi - I'm a complete newbie with midi files, but I need to "cut out" about 10
seconds of a 3 minute midi file, to use with a website. I figured that would
be a breeze, but can't find anything cheap (free!?!) that will let me do
that, like something similar to Windows "Sound Recorder." I'd appreciate
advice from the experts. Thanks,
~OC~

Re: Midi Editor

: Hi - I'm a complete newbie with midi files, but I need to "cut out" about 10
: seconds of a 3 minute midi file, to use with a website. I figured that would
: be a breeze, but can't find anything cheap (free!?!) that will let me do
: that, like something similar to Windows "Sound Recorder." I'd appreciate
: advice from the experts. Thanks,

In MIDI-speak It's called a sequencer. Try here:

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/win95/MIDI_SEQUENCERS/

D.

Re: Midi Editor

If you're prepared to put in a few minutes getting used to it, the
QuartzAudiomaster freeware version 4.6 (there might be a newer one now) is a
very handy freebie to get - you can probably find it on CNET or ZDNET or do
a search to find the homepage for the authors.

regards
fretbuzz

: : Hi - I'm a complete newbie with midi files, but I need to "cut out" about 10
: : seconds of a 3 minute midi file, to use with a website. I figured that would
: : be a breeze, but can't find anything cheap (free!?!) that will let me do
: : that, like something similar to Windows "Sound Recorder." I'd appreciate
: : advice from the experts. Thanks,

:
: In MIDI-speak It's called a sequencer. Try here:

: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/win95/MIDI_SEQUENCERS/

: D.

Re: Midi Editor

Just a quick note to say thanks for the great feedback. Looks like there's a
little learnin' curve ahead, but just what I needed. Thanks Again,
~OC~

: If you're prepared to put in a few minutes getting used to it, the
: QuartzAudiomaster freeware version 4.6 (there might be a newer one now) is a
: very handy freebie to get - you can probably find it on CNET or ZDNET or do
: a search to find the homepage for the authors.

: regards
: fretbuzz

:
: : : Hi - I'm a complete newbie with midi files, but I need to "cut out" about 10
: : : seconds of a 3 minute midi file, to use with a website. I figured that would
: : : be a breeze, but can't find anything cheap (free!?!) that will let me do
: : : that, like something similar to Windows "Sound Recorder." I'd appreciate
: : : advice from the experts. Thanks,

: :
: : In MIDI-speak It's called a sequencer. Try here:

: : http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/win95/MIDI_SEQUENCERS/

: : D.

Sysex problem - Help please

I'm using Cakewalk 9 to edit midi files and have an occasional
problem.
I set the correct bank (SC 8850) and patch and insert the SG reset
string in VIEW SYSEX. After closing the file, when I come back to it,
the Sysex message is gone and the banks are all blank.
I've checked each tracks EVENTS and can't see any controlloer other
than 91, 93, NRPN and RPN.
Only happens with the occasional file but as usual it's the ones I
need for the next gig.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Glen

Re: Sysex problem - Help please

Cakewalk does not save as much information in the Event List as so other
programs. It saves most of the information in the Setup Measure. Are you
trimming the file of the first measure when saving to .mid?
Jb

: I'm using Cakewalk 9 to edit midi files and have an occasional
: problem.
: I set the correct bank (SC 8850) and patch and insert the SG reset
: string in VIEW SYSEX. After closing the file, when I come back to it,
: the Sysex message is gone and the banks are all blank.
: I've checked each tracks EVENTS and can't see any controlloer other
: than 91, 93, NRPN and RPN.
: Only happens with the occasional file but as usual it's the ones I
: need for the next gig.
: Thanks in advance for any help.
: Glen

Re: Sysex problem - Help please

: I'm using Cakewalk 9 to edit midi files and have an occasional
: problem.
: I set the correct bank (SC 8850) and patch and insert the SG reset
: string in VIEW SYSEX. After closing the file, when I come back to it,
: the Sysex message is gone and the banks are all blank.
: I've checked each tracks EVENTS and can't see any controlloer other
: than 91, 93, NRPN and RPN.
: Only happens with the occasional file but as usual it's the ones I
: need for the next gig.
: Thanks in advance for any help.

Only obvious thing I can think of is failing to save the file after
making changes.
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*-__Jeffery Jones__________| *Starfire* |____________________-*
** Muskego WI Access Channel 14/25 <http://www.execpc.com/~jeffsj/mach7/>
*Starfire Design Studio* <http://www.starfiredesign.com/>

Re: Sysex problem - Help please

Thanks for your suggestion, but fortunately Cakewalk won't let you
quit without saving
Glen

: : I'm using Cakewalk 9 to edit midi files and have an occasional
: : problem.
: : I set the correct bank (SC 8850) and patch and insert the SG reset
: : string in VIEW SYSEX. After closing the file, when I come back to it,
: : the Sysex message is gone and the banks are all blank.
: : I've checked each tracks EVENTS and can't see any controlloer other
: : than 91, 93, NRPN and RPN.
: : Only happens with the occasional file but as usual it's the ones I
: : need for the next gig.
: : Thanks in advance for any help.

:
: Only obvious thing I can think of is failing to save the file after
: making changes.
: --
: *-__Jeffery Jones__________| *Starfire* |____________________-*
: ** Muskego WI Access Channel 14/25 <http://www.execpc.com/~jeffsj/mach7/>
: *Starfire Design Studio* <http://www.starfiredesign.com/>

old midi keyboard conexion to maudiophile 2496 and novation remo

Hi

I had the soundblaster live and it worked sooo good when using it with my
standard midi controller which has 1 midi OUT and was ocnnected to the
midi/game port of the SB live value.

Now, I switched to the maduio audiophile hoping I could still use it.But it
doesnt work. The SB live had a 15 piun midi and the maduio has a 5 or 9 pin.
So could this be it?

Now , I have a novation remote control (USB) which has 2 MIDI ports:

1) 1 out, 1 IN, 1 thru
2) 2 midi outs

check it out here:
http://www.novationmusic.com/nov_route/images/press_img/high_rez/remote_25_b
ack_hr.jpg

I connect the USb port to activate the Novation remote.

How can I connect my older midi keyboard to my system??>?>?

Should I install the SB live as well and disable the audio drivers.

Thanks

Mic preamp question

What is the desirable gain and input Z of a good mic preamp? Thanks in
advance. I am new to this group and plan on hanging around for a while.

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Re: Mic preamp question

>What is the desirable gain and input Z of a good mic preamp?

The exact answers to these questions depend on the sensitivity of the mic,
the SPL of the sound source, the desired preamp output level, and the load
impedance the mic expects.

There are, however, values of gain and input impedance that "typical"
mic peamps provide for general purpose use. An adjustable gain range
on the order of 0 to 40 dB is generally useful, perhaps with a 10 to
20 dB pad to suit higher signal level conditions. An input impedance
of about 5K ohms is a reasonable compromise that works well enough with
a broad range of microphones.

> Thanks in
>advance.

You're welcome.

> I am new to this group and plan on hanging around for a while.

I hope you enjoy it!

<PRE>
--
========================================================================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain
</PRE>

Mic preamp

What does preamp means?

Re: Mic preamp question

: What is the desirable gain and input Z of a good mic preamp? Thanks in
: advance. I am new to this group and plan on hanging around for a while.

Most modern mics have a source impedance of less than 600 ohms so a mic
input Z of around twice this would be typical of a good mic preamp. Gain
should be variable from 20dB to 60dB or more depending on the application
and the type of microphone to be used. For a given sound level, ribbon
mics produce the least output, dynamics somewhat more and condensors the
most.

Ian

Re: Mic preamp question

What happens with a 20K input Z?

: : What is the desirable gain and input Z of a good mic preamp? Thanks in
: : advance. I am new to this group and plan on hanging around for a while.

:
: Most modern mics have a source impedance of less than 600 ohms so a mic
: input Z of around twice this would be typical of a good mic preamp. Gain
: should be variable from 20dB to 60dB or more depending on the application
: and the type of microphone to be used. For a given sound level, ribbon
: mics produce the least output, dynamics somewhat more and condensors the
: most.

: Ian

Re: Mic preamp question

: What happens with a 20K input Z?

Any mic pre with a 20K input Z is likely to be more noisy than one with an
input impedance around 1K. If you are recording drums then the input
signal level will be so high this will not matter. Recording vocals would
be another matter.

Ian

Re: BASS preamp question

What would be the ideal situation if I want to D.I. the
bass directly to the line in on my soundcard?

Re: BASS preamp question

The ideal for me would be a quality Bass DI box with an inline compressor..

Help Selecting Digital Recorder

Hello,

I am in the market for a new recorder. Once-upon-a-time I had a Fostex
4-track and had a great time micing my amp, recording live drums, etc.
Times have changed since I became a father and I am looking for
something different. Here is what I want a unit to do;

1. Have different decent sounds so I can plug a guitar directly in.
2. Record two tracks at once - either play and sing or a stereo guitar
parts via a delay pedal.
3. Easily be able to link with a Mac (OS 9) to create files to burn to
a CD. Also be able to back-up raw tracks to the Mac if possible.
4. Be small and light - something I can keep in the closet and get out
after my daughter is in bed.
5. Be battery powered if desired.
6. Have built-in effects for mix-down.

Basically I am looking to spend more time playing music and less time
setting up and tearing down equipment.

I have seen three units that look like they might work. They are (in
no particular order);

Boss BR-864
Korg Toneworks Pandora PXR4
Tascam Pocketstudio 5

What do people think of these units? Are there others?

Thanks For the Help,

Bruce
bruce@tentotheninth.com

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Re: Help Selecting Digital Recorder

Bruce,

Have you received any responses yet? I have narrowed my equipment search to the Fostex, TAscam, Korg, and Boss units. I'd be interested in any advice you can provide to help me decide which unit to buy.

Thanks,
Bill

: Hello,

: I am in the market for a new recorder. Once-upon-a-time I had a Fostex
: 4-track and had a great time micing my amp, recording live drums, etc.
: Times have changed since I became a father and I am looking for
: something different. Here is what I want a unit to do;

: 1. Have different decent sounds so I can plug a guitar directly in.
: 2. Record two tracks at once - either play and sing or a stereo guitar
: parts via a delay pedal.
: 3. Easily be able to link with a Mac (OS 9) to create files to burn to
: a CD. Also be able to back-up raw tracks to the Mac if possible.
: 4. Be small and light - something I can keep in the closet and get out
: after my daughter is in bed.
: 5. Be battery powered if desired.
: 6. Have built-in effects for mix-down.

: Basically I am looking to spend more time playing music and less time
: setting up and tearing down equipment.

: I have seen three units that look like they might work. They are (in
: no particular order);

: Boss BR-864
: Korg Toneworks Pandora PXR4
: Tascam Pocketstudio 5

: What do people think of these units? Are there others?

: Thanks For the Help,

: Bruce
: bruce@tentotheninth.com

CUBASE SX 2.0 BUG! GENERIC REMOTE: OH GOD

CUBASE SX 2.0 BUG! GENERIC REMOTE: OH GOD

HI

I fooled around with cubase sx 2, at my friends house. Adn oh no, I found
another mayor bug, especially if you use midi control sufaces, such as
remote control 25 and UC33.

YOU CAN'T control PAN or cubase's EQ freq and Q of audio tracks with your
generic device. Ain't it funny? You can control midipan, but no audio pan
with your control surface.

Oh nooooo.....this is a mayor BUG. how can I mix a 13 track long audio song?
That is why I bought the control surface...to get rid of the mouse. In
cubase sx 1,, the generic device worked greatly. BUT THEY reprogrammed! And
split the generic device in 2 parts: audio and midi. USELESS!

Another BUG.....You canót control the EQ's freq, Q anymore. THEy are GONE!
So how can I control them with my knobs and sliders on my midi control
surface.

Oh no!

Re: CUBASE SX 2.0 BUG! GENERIC REMOTE: OH GOD

i have the solution, buy a decent control surface.

: CUBASE SX 2.0 BUG! GENERIC REMOTE: OH GOD

:
: HI

: I fooled around with cubase sx 2, at my friends house. Adn oh no, I found
: another mayor bug, especially if you use midi control sufaces, such as
: remote control 25 and UC33.

: YOU CAN'T control PAN or cubase's EQ freq and Q of audio tracks with your
: generic device. Ain't it funny? You can control midipan, but no audio pan
: with your control surface.

: Oh nooooo.....this is a mayor BUG. how can I mix a 13 track long audio song?
: That is why I bought the control surface...to get rid of the mouse. In
: cubase sx 1,, the generic device worked greatly. BUT THEY reprogrammed! And
: split the generic device in 2 parts: audio and midi. USELESS!

: Another BUG.....You canót control the EQ's freq, Q anymore. THEy are GONE!
: So how can I control them with my knobs and sliders on my midi control
: surface.

: Oh no!

Re: CUBASE SX 2.0 BUG! GENERIC REMOTE: OH GOD

i have the same problem and i lost too many hours trying to find a possible solution. Is there any?

Re: CUBASE SX 2.0 BUG! GENERIC REMOTE: OH GOD

.... same for me.... the problem appears on any control that is stored in subfolders in the automation window... :'(

no way at this time.......

the newest update of cubase sx 2.02 works for anyone?

Best studio equipement for one-man-band Christian pop music?

I'm a Christian musician (guitar, keys, vocals) and I haven't made music in
years. I really love arranging multitrack sequences and recordings and I'm
thinking about getting some recording / music equipment to get started
again, but I'm having a hard time making a decision on what path to take.

I think a do-it-all keyboard like a Korg Triton might be able to meet my
needs best. But I'm wondering if there are better options out there, like
computer software and a controller keyboard and a rackmounted sound module.
Or maybe I should split features and get some of everything -- a cheap but
good 61-key workstation, a cheap but good 88-key controller, and some
software.

The style of music I enjoy to make is, basically, modern Christian pop
(Chris Tomlin, Michael W. Smith, Mark Schulz). I don't have a boatload of
money but I am willing to make a moderate initial investment (say, up to the
cost of a Korg Triton Studio 88 .. or, say, $1,500 to $4,000).

Last time I made good music was with a Korg T3 and my acoustic guitar, best
moment playing live, about eight years ago. I had a Tascam Portastudio
4-track, but nothing good came of that but live audio mixing... it was too
awkward to mixdown to a standard mix or to bounce tracks, plus audio quality
(analog cassette) stunk, etc. I had some cheap rackmounted Art effects
processor and vocals wouldn't record naturally .. I sounded like I was in an
infinitely tall tin can. Plus I don't know how to sync MIDI sequences with
live recording properly--I tried some kind of signal generator /
synchronizer to lay a signal down on a track on the Portastudio, but it made
my Korg T3 hiccup and was basically useless. Ultimately, I didn't lay down
any good mixes, the vocals were awful for the one or two songs I recorded
with just keyboard and me -- my best moments were on stage. I would prefer
to be more useful in the home studio but on stage as well.

I want a solution that allows me to create and mix keys, acoustic and
rhythm-electric guitar, vocals, drums (sampled?), everything, by myself, in
a small room, and sound like an absolute pro. This would likely mean that
the keys or computer solution would have to have very realistic sounds,
especially drum sounds, bass sounds, and acoustic piano sounds.

I know that musicianship and engineering knowledge is mandatory for good
studio recording, so if I suck then I suck, but I just don't want my
equipment to hold me back from producing professional quality recordings.

I think I have some considerable home studio options, but I'd like advice.
For instance, are other workstations like the Fantom any good for standard
pop / pop-rock and for all-instrument reproduction?

Here are some options I'm considering ...

1. [MIX OF KEYS, COMPUTER, AND TRACKS] Triton LE 61-key + Alesis QS8.2 +
multitrack recording software and/or a hard disk multitrack recorder (8 or
16 tracks) + standard vocal mic

2. [COMPUTER STUDIO] Software + new computer workstation (i.e. DigiDesign
Pro Tools setup) + 88-key keyboard controller + new electric guitar +
moderately good guitar effects + standard vocal mic + vocal mic effects

3. [TRITON HUNGRY] Triton Studio Pro 88-key (alone) + standard vocal mic

4. [STAGE STUDIO] Alesis QS8.2 (or other good controller w/ good sound) +
new laptop w/ MIDI & audio card + mini-mixer

Comments appreciated.

Jon

Re: Best studio equipement for one-man-band Christian pop music?

: I'm a Christian musician (guitar, keys, vocals) and I haven't made music in
: years. I really love arranging multitrack sequences and recordings and I'm
: thinking about getting some recording / music equipment to get started
: again, but I'm having a hard time making a decision on what path to take.

: I think a do-it-all keyboard like a Korg Triton might be able to meet my
: needs best. But I'm wondering if there are better options out there, like
: computer software and a controller keyboard and a rackmounted sound module.
: Or maybe I should split features and get some of everything -- a cheap but
: good 61-key workstation, a cheap but good 88-key controller, and some
: software.

: The style of music I enjoy to make is, basically, modern Christian pop
: (Chris Tomlin, Michael W. Smith, Mark Schulz). I don't have a boatload of
: money but I am willing to make a moderate initial investment (say, up to the
: cost of a Korg Triton Studio 88 .. or, say, $1,500 to $4,000).

: Last time I made good music was with a Korg T3 and my acoustic guitar, best
: moment playing live, about eight years ago. I had a Tascam Portastudio
: 4-track, but nothing good came of that but live audio mixing... it was too
: awkward to mixdown to a standard mix or to bounce tracks, plus audio quality
: (analog cassette) stunk, etc. I had some cheap rackmounted Art effects
: processor and vocals wouldn't record naturally .. I sounded like I was in an
: infinitely tall tin can. Plus I don't know how to sync MIDI sequences with
: live recording properly--I tried some kind of signal generator /
: synchronizer to lay a signal down on a track on the Portastudio, but it made
: my Korg T3 hiccup and was basically useless. Ultimately, I didn't lay down
: any good mixes, the vocals were awful for the one or two songs I recorded
: with just keyboard and me -- my best moments were on stage. I would prefer
: to be more useful in the home studio but on stage as well.

Intuim for Mac OSX, if I understand their latest blurb, as a feature allowing you
to adjust the tempo of a MIDI sequence to match a live audio recording.
They're quite proud of this facility, so it's probably something you rarely
find in other sequencer programs. I'm assuming, of course, that you want
to mix a MIDI sequenced audio signal to a live recording after the live
recording was made. Clearly, if you play the MIDI sequence while
recording the live signal, the only trick is learning to play with a recording :-).

: I want a solution that allows me to create and mix keys, acoustic and
: rhythm-electric guitar, vocals, drums (sampled?), everything, by myself, in
: a small room, and sound like an absolute pro. This would likely mean that
: the keys or computer solution would have to have very realistic sounds,
: especially drum sounds, bass sounds, and acoustic piano sounds.

Some Roland units have very good piano sounds, or so I'm told (hey,
I'm not in a position to accurately judge this, the GM piano sounds fine
to me). Roland's drums are pretty good, too (better, if they're gonna
charge $5,000 for their V-Series electronic drum kits).

Absolute Pro? Well, that's subjective. It really depends on the material
you feed the synth and the effort you put into sequencing your material
(or the effort you put into finding appropriately sequenced material).

: I know that musicianship and engineering knowledge is mandatory for good
: studio recording, so if I suck then I suck, but I just don't want my
: equipment to hold me back from producing professional quality recordings.

: I think I have some considerable home studio options, but I'd like advice.
: For instance, are other workstations like the Fantom any good for standard
: pop / pop-rock and for all-instrument reproduction?

Sure. But better to get a lower-end unit and use a computer for all the
recording aspects. Unless you really need the facilities of the Fantom.

: Here are some options I'm considering ...

: 1. [MIX OF KEYS, COMPUTER, AND TRACKS] Triton LE 61-key + Alesis QS8.2 +
: multitrack recording software and/or a hard disk multitrack recorder (8 or
: 16 tracks) + standard vocal mic

Get a good condensor mic for recording. Makes a *huge* difference.
Okay, "good" is a relative term, but be prepared to spend a little bit
of money on this item. Some people say the Behringer condensor mics
($100-$200) are fine, others think life starts at about $500. It really
depends upon your voice as to which mic is best for recording. In general,
however, "standard vocal mics" (i.e., stage mics) don't sound that good
when you use them for recording.

: 2. [COMPUTER STUDIO] Software + new computer workstation (i.e. DigiDesign
: Pro Tools setup) + 88-key keyboard controller + new electric guitar +
: moderately good guitar effects + standard vocal mic + vocal mic effects

This would be my choice. A Digi-001 system is great, though the
M-Box (two simultaneous inputs) would probably work just fine for
you (for recording, you don't really need more than a couple of mic
inputs, anyway). If you're going to do live recording, this setup won't
work, but the equipment you'll want will be quite a bit more money
(e.g., a Digi-002 or one of the audio<->firewire boxes).
Be careful with the vocal mic effects. Other than compression and reverb,
most of it doesn't sound good outside a live situation. I bought a DigiTech
Vocalizer VR, then replaced that by a TC Helicon Quintet. The truth is,
I generally use the Quintet as my reverb unit these days (it has the same
reverb as the M-100 unit, IIRC). Compression is an absolute must for
recording, though you can often get by just fine with the software plug-ins
for ProTools and the like (I still use an off-board compressor, but often
run the input through a software plug-in as well). Compression is also
really nice for live use, assuming you're able to keep feedback under
control (compression can increase the likelinood of feedback if you
don't have the system EQ'd properly).

: 3. [TRITON HUNGRY] Triton Studio Pro 88-key (alone) + standard vocal mic

Wouldn't know anything about this configuration.

: 4. [STAGE STUDIO] Alesis QS8.2 (or other good controller w/ good sound) +
: new laptop w/ MIDI & audio card + mini-mixer

Don't have any experience. Can't comment.

I'd love to find an eight-track digital recorder I could take to live
shows that actually provides eight inputs and records them all to
disk. No effects, no mixing, just plain recording. Stuff that I could
mix down at home, later. Lots of portable "eight-track" stuff available.
Most of it has *two* inputs (or, at most, four). No good. I want to
record each instrument/vocalist on a separate track for mix-down
later (when I have control over the environment).
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

Re: Best studio equipement for one-man-band Christian pop music?

Hey thanks Randall. I appreciate your help!

Jon

: : I'm a Christian musician (guitar, keys, vocals) and I haven't made music in
: : years. I really love arranging multitrack sequences and recordings and I'm
: : thinking about getting some recording / music equipment to get started
: : again, but I'm having a hard time making a decision on what path to take.

: : I think a do-it-all keyboard like a Korg Triton might be able to meet my
: : needs best. But I'm wondering if there are better options out there, like
: : computer software and a controller keyboard and a rackmounted sound module.
: : Or maybe I should split features and get some of everything -- a cheap but
: : good 61-key workstation, a cheap but good 88-key controller, and some
: : software.

: : The style of music I enjoy to make is, basically, modern Christian pop
: : (Chris Tomlin, Michael W. Smith, Mark Schulz). I don't have a boatload of
: : money but I am willing to make a moderate initial investment (say, up to the
: : cost of a Korg Triton Studio 88 .. or, say, $1,500 to $4,000).

: : Last time I made good music was with a Korg T3 and my acoustic guitar, best
: : moment playing live, about eight years ago. I had a Tascam Portastudio
: : 4-track, but nothing good came of that but live audio mixing... it was too
: : awkward to mixdown to a standard mix or to bounce tracks, plus audio quality
: : (analog cassette) stunk, etc. I had some cheap rackmounted Art effects
: : processor and vocals wouldn't record naturally .. I sounded like I was in an
: : infinitely tall tin can. Plus I don't know how to sync MIDI sequences with
: : live recording properly--I tried some kind of signal generator /
: : synchronizer to lay a signal down on a track on the Portastudio, but it made
: : my Korg T3 hiccup and was basically useless. Ultimately, I didn't lay down
: : any good mixes, the vocals were awful for the one or two songs I recorded
: : with just keyboard and me -- my best moments were on stage. I would prefer
: : to be more useful in the home studio but on stage as well.

: Intuim for Mac OSX, if I understand their latest blurb, as a feature allowing you
: to adjust the tempo of a MIDI sequence to match a live audio recording.
: They're quite proud of this facility, so it's probably something you rarely
: find in other sequencer programs. I'm assuming, of course, that you want
: to mix a MIDI sequenced audio signal to a live recording after the live
: recording was made. Clearly, if you play the MIDI sequence while
: recording the live signal, the only trick is learning to play with a recording :-).

: : I want a solution that allows me to create and mix keys, acoustic and
: : rhythm-electric guitar, vocals, drums (sampled?), everything, by myself, in
: : a small room, and sound like an absolute pro. This would likely mean that
: : the keys or computer solution would have to have very realistic sounds,
: : especially drum sounds, bass sounds, and acoustic piano sounds.

: Some Roland units have very good piano sounds, or so I'm told (hey,
: I'm not in a position to accurately judge this, the GM piano sounds fine
: to me). Roland's drums are pretty good, too (better, if they're gonna
: charge $5,000 for their V-Series electronic drum kits).

: Absolute Pro? Well, that's subjective. It really depends on the material
: you feed the synth and the effort you put into sequencing your material
: (or the effort you put into finding appropriately sequenced material).

: : I know that musicianship and engineering knowledge is mandatory for good
: : studio recording, so if I suck then I suck, but I just don't want my
: : equipment to hold me back from producing professional quality recordings.

: : I think I have some considerable home studio options, but I'd like advice.
: : For instance, are other workstations like the Fantom any good for standard
: : pop / pop-rock and for all-instrument reproduction?

: Sure. But better to get a lower-end unit and use a computer for all the
: recording aspects. Unless you really need the facilities of the Fantom.

: : Here are some options I'm considering ...

: : 1. [MIX OF KEYS, COMPUTER, AND TRACKS] Triton LE 61-key + Alesis QS8.2 +
: : multitrack recording software and/or a hard disk multitrack recorder (8 or
: : 16 tracks) + standard vocal mic

: Get a good condensor mic for recording. Makes a *huge* difference.
: Okay, "good" is a relative term, but be prepared to spend a little bit
: of money on this item. Some people say the Behringer condensor mics
: ($100-$200) are fine, others think life starts at about $500. It really
: depends upon your voice as to which mic is best for recording. In general,
: however, "standard vocal mics" (i.e., stage mics) don't sound that good
: when you use them for recording.

: : 2. [COMPUTER STUDIO] Software + new computer workstation (i.e. DigiDesign
: : Pro Tools setup) + 88-key keyboard controller + new electric guitar +
: : moderately good guitar effects + standard vocal mic + vocal mic effects

: This would be my choice. A Digi-001 system is great, though the
: M-Box (two simultaneous inputs) would probably work just fine for
: you (for recording, you don't really need more than a couple of mic
: inputs, anyway). If you're going to do live recording, this setup won't
: work, but the equipment you'll want will be quite a bit more money
: (e.g., a Digi-002 or one of the audio<->firewire boxes).
: Be careful with the vocal mic effects. Other than compression and reverb,
: most of it doesn't sound good outside a live situation. I bought a DigiTech
: Vocalizer VR, then replaced that by a TC Helicon Quintet. The truth is,
: I generally use the Quintet as my reverb unit these days (it has the same
: reverb as the M-100 unit, IIRC). Compression is an absolute must for
: recording, though you can often get by just fine with the software plug-ins
: for ProTools and the like (I still use an off-board compressor, but often
: run the input through a software plug-in as well). Compression is also
: really nice for live use, assuming you're able to keep feedback under
: control (compression can increase the likelinood of feedback if you
: don't have the system EQ'd properly).

: : 3. [TRITON HUNGRY] Triton Studio Pro 88-key (alone) + standard vocal mic

: Wouldn't know anything about this configuration.

: : 4. [STAGE STUDIO] Alesis QS8.2 (or other good controller w/ good sound) +
: : new laptop w/ MIDI & audio card + mini-mixer

: Don't have any experience. Can't comment.

: I'd love to find an eight-track digital recorder I could take to live
: shows that actually provides eight inputs and records them all to
: disk. No effects, no mixing, just plain recording. Stuff that I could
: mix down at home, later. Lots of portable "eight-track" stuff available.
: Most of it has *two* inputs (or, at most, four). No good. I want to
: record each instrument/vocalist on a separate track for mix-down
: later (when I have control over the environment).
: Cheers,
: Randy Hyde

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Re: Bye Bye MP3.com?

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Audio production

Music composing & video clips 4 adults & 4 kids
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key change

Hi,
I there software available, whether PC or Mac which will let me change the key of a song. There are external devices that do this for karaoke, but I'd like software if it is possible.
Thanks,
Hal

Flash and Real Player Problem

Hi, hope somebody can help with a problem I have been having recently.

I am unable to hear any sounds from the flash plugins on a website. I can see the animations ok however no sound is heard. I've checked the macromedia site and couldn't get an answer. I have version 7 of the flash plugin.

I am also unable to hear any sound in RealPlayer (I have tried RealOne and RealPlayer 8). Again I can see the video but no sound.

The strange thing is I can hear the sound with shockwave plugins but not flash or realplayer.

I have previously been able to hear the sound in flash/realplayer. I cannot however pinpoint the time when this problem started or what could have caused it.

I can play audio files no problem with winamp or windows media player.

Also video is playing ok with sound for mpegs and avi files through wmp.
Could this be a missing/corrupt codec.

I am running Windows XP SP1.
I have a Yamaha Legacy Sound Card. I have checked all possible configurations of the SC and all appears to work OK as I am able to play midi files.

Hopefully somebidy can help or point me in the right direction as this is driving me crackers!

Thanks

RAWM

Re: Flash and Real Player Problem

I too am having the exact same problem since upgrading to SP-2. I can't get support on it from Macromedia or microsoft because they keep passing the buck back and forth. I found that it would not work with wave based looping music programs I have either. I got into the .ini file for that program and selected my soundcard as the primary sound output device and it wroked. Unfortunately Flash has no such way to choose audio output. Any hints on a remedy would be appriciated. strack36@hotmail

Re: Flash and Real Player Problem

Same problem here, windows xp pro, latest sound drivers, latest flash but I did notice something significant ... NO sound with Winamp 5.01 but Winamp have fixed the problem in Winamp 5.02 ... So whatever the problem is Winamp has the solution ... email Macromedia & may be we can get their people to talk to the Winamp people & get the bug sorted ...

Re: Flash and Real Player Problem

RAWM

Did you get any help form someone? My problem sounds just like yours.

Miles

Re: Flash and Real Player Problem

: RAWM

: Same here! I've got a similar problem, but nowhere to find any help! Did you get any help?...

: J

music transposing

i need some information on available software
to transpose a song from one key to another key.